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On this page, the webmaster lists his main sources of information. This may seem particularly important because most of his sources are people whom he has never even met !

  • One important source has been various webpages, and also some of the publications listed in the Bibliography -- principally the books written by Lady Fanny Blunt and Lady Patricia Maddocks.

  • Peter Thomas Henry Gordon Zohrab was apparently the first to construct a family tree of any of the descendants of Zohrab, although it was limited in scope to his great-uncle, his grandfather, and the latter's descendants.

  • Judge Edgar Zorab drew up what appears to be the second Roman alphabet version of a Zohrab/Zorab family tree on the basis of the genealogical tree composed in Armenian by Aviet (Avetick) Carapiet Zohrabiants, of New Julfa, Isfahan, Iran, in 1919.  Appendix A of a letter written by Kelvin Pollock, of England, to Peter Douglas Zohrab in 2003 was stated to be this tree.  It has on it writing only in English, apparently by Judge Edgar Zorab.

  • Edward van Put, of the Netherlands, provided (in 2004) a photocopy of a family tree, also apparently by Judge Edgar Zorab.  This tree is in colour, has the lines of the notebook showing, has writing, apparently by Judge Edgar Zorab, in Dutch, and has had the names of people added to it in another hand.  This must have been the original tree, and the one above must have been a hand-drawn copy.

  • The next Roman alphabet Zohrab/Zorab family tree was drawn up by Dr. Phillip Zorab, of England, on the basis of research carried out in Armenia and Iran by Judge Edgar Zorab, including the first Roman alphabet tree. This seems to depart from Judge Edgar's tree in some important respects, and for unknown reasons.

  • The next (and by far the largest) Roman alphabet family tree was drawn up by Kelvin (deceased in 2011) and Rosemary Pollock, of England. Rosemary Pollock is part of the Greenwood branch).   They are one of the main sources on various aspects of the family's history, starting in 1996. In 2003 they sent detailed answers to a list of questions Peter Dougals Zohrab had sent them about discrepancies between their version and Dr. Philip Zorab's version of the family tree, etc.. In their letter of 2003, they gave the following account of the start of their involvement with Zohrab genealogy:  "The First Family Tree (FFT) was sent to us about 8 years agoby a cousin of Rosemary's, Susan Russell, who had received it from Judith, the widow of Charles Peter Zorab ( (1902-1968).  Another cousin Gerald Lloyd-Williams's wife Judy is a cousin of Ann, wife of Harold Zorab (nephew of Charles Peter Zorab), and shortly afterwards Gerald and Judy invited Harold and Ann to their house for lunch and to meet us.  Harold then explained to us about the family history and brought the FFT more up to date for us.  Sadly Harold died at the end of 2000.  Over the years, we met him and his wife on several occasions and corresponded.  I asked him to let me see his father Edgar's sources from which the FFT was prepared."  In the same letter, the Pollocks gave the following as their main sources on earlier generations of the Zohrab family: (A) A version written by Judge Edgar Zorab of the family tree of the Zohrabian family composed by Aviet (Avetik) Carapiet Zohrabyants in 1919.   (B) Harold Zorab's cousin Armen Joseph's booklet about the family, dated 1991.  (C) A German biographical encyclopedia, parts of which were translated by Armen Joseph from Armenian into English.  (D) Lady Maddock's documents, including the family tree by Peter Thomas Henry Gordon Zohrab (1817-1881). (E) Letters written by Rev. James Kayll, based on information from General Zohrab (in Egypt or Paris) and Edward Goodwin Fortescue Zohrab, grandson of Peter Thomas Henry Gordon Zohrab.

  • The late Dr. John Zorab, of England, researched the family's history and planned to write a book on the Zorab branch of the Zorab/Zohrab family. He was also one of the main sources on various aspects of the family's history, starting in 2000 --particularly as regards his branch of the family.

  • Tom King has lent photographs and given the webmaster other information at various times.

  • Caroline Ann Wilson gave some information by email about her mother in 2002.

  • John Neish gave some information by email about Frank Farquhar Colledge in 2002.

  • Judy Siers passed on some images from Jonathan Page in 2002 See The Life and Times of James Walter Chapman-Taylor" http://www.millwood-heritage.com/5.html.

  • Sandra Staples gave some information by email about relatives of Mary Irene Bruce of Ashburton, New Zealand in 2002.

  • Mark Donoghue gave some information about Sophie Zohrab's son William Thornton in 2002.

  • Hans Zorab gave some information about the Dutch Zorabs in 2002.

  • Richard (Dick) Bevin gave some information about his branch of the family in 2003.

  • Gustavo Wray gave some information about the Blunt part of the family in 2003.

  • Fran Kukula gave some information about the Kukula part of the family in 2003.

  • Gain Zohrab gave some information on the descendants of Geoffrey Paul Zohrab in 2003.

  • Alex Zorab gave some information on the descendants of Arthur Zorab (son of Leonard) in 2003.

  • Stephanie Smith gave some information about the Batten family in 2003.

  • John Woodyear-Smith gave some information on his part of the family in 2004.

  • Anahid van der Putten and Simone van der Putten sent some information about their part of the family in 2004.

  • Alison deCaen sent some photographs and paintings in 2005 -- principally of Blanche Miriam Zohrab and her house at Silverstream, Upper Hutt, New Zealand.

  • Jean-Paul Maas sent some information about his mother, Gracy Zorab, and her parents in 2005.

  • Gain Zohrab gave some more information on the descendants of Geoffrey Paul Zohrab in 2006.

  • Erica Beattie gave some information on the descendants of Ruth Zohrab in 2006.

  • Mary Anne Miller gave some information about John Smaillie Tennant and his wife Edith Ethel Moresby Zohrab in 2006.

  • Liz Chater kindly allowed use of photos of Zorab & Manuk tombs in India in 2006.

  • Jill Haley, Otago Settlers Museum Archivist, provided details in 2006 of Constantine Edward Zohrab's 1862 journey from Australia to New Zealand.

  • Dr. John Zorab kindly supplied some details about his extended family in 2006, which the webmaster used (in 2006) to amend the family tree.

  • The above information by Dr. John Zorab in 2006 also included information passed on from Clive Zorab in Durban about the death of Wyn Zorab.

  • Tom Zorab informed the webmaster of his father (Dr. John Zorab)'s death in 2006.

  • Caroline Wilson told the webmaster her brother's middle name in 2006.

  • Alec Zorab gave the webmaster some information about his immediate family in 2006.

  • Clive Zorab gave the webmaster some information about his immediate family in 2006 and 2013.

  • Theresa Rose sent the webmaster some information about her descent from Lady Adela Holmes (nee Zohrab) in 2006.

  • Louise Bevin sent the webmaster some information about her branch of the Bevin family in 2006 & 2007.

  • Hans Zorab sent the webmaster some information about his branch of the Zorab family in 2007.

  • Jon Metes sent the webmaster some information about Thagoohi (Takouhi) Manuk in 2007.

  • Peter John Zorab sent the webmaster some information about his immediate family in 2007.

  • Tui Bevin sent the webmaster some information about her immediate family in 2007.

  • Carol Brunello sent the webmaster some information about Peter Thomas Henry Gordon Zohrab and about the photograph at diancaro.html in 2007.

  • Diana Houtman, Carol Brunello and Moera McNaughton gave the webmaster some information about Jess Bennett's family in 2007.

  • Moera McNaughton gave the webmaster some photographs and information about Constantine Edward Zohrab's family in 2007.

  • Jenna Lee Cartwright gave the webmaster some information about her immediate family in 2007.

  • Diana Houtman sent mthe webmaster a mini-family tree of her part of the family in 2007.

  • Carey Zorab sent mthe webmaster some information concerning her part of the family in 2007 and 2008.

  • Dr. David Arathoon provided the correct date of John Theodore Manuk's birth on the page: http://equality.netfirms.com/manucharian/manukgra.html, and also a web address correction, in 2008.

  • Caroline Wilson provided some information about her ancestors in 2008.

  • Carol Brunello provided some information about her grandchild in 2008.

  • David Skinner provided some information about Katherine Zohrab in 2008.

  • Clive Zorab provided some information about his family in 2008.

  • Carol Brunello provided some information about her great-nephew in 2008.

  • Belinda Zohrab provided some information about her family in 2008.

  • Diane Belford provided details and photographs of her extended family, including her great-great-grandfather, Edward John Paul Zohrab and her great-grandchildren, in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.

  • Carey Zorab provided details about her extended family in 2009.

  • Renee Milders provided some information about Judge Edgar and the Dutch branch of the Zorab family in 2009.

  • A person who wishes to be anonymous provided some information about her stepmother, Iraida, and her second husband, Frank Ponsford, in 2009.

  • Dr. Hovann Simonian (in 2009) gave the webmaster some information about Edward Zohrab, and also raised the question which led to the jointly-agreed tentative location of Dr. Johannes Zohrab on the family tree.  This, in turn, confirms Kelvin Pollocks' theory that it was not Constantine, Sophie and Peter Paul John Zohrab but the previous generation who left Persia.

  • Sarah Symonds provided some information about her part of the family tree in 2010.  This included her marriage later this year, which the webmaster included on the family tree as if it had already happened (i.e. the year only)!

  • Belinda Zohrab-McConnell provided some information about her part of the family tree in 2010.

  • Les Curwood provided some details about the Maddox branch of the family in 2010.

  • Douglas Arthur Whitcombe corrected his mother's name on the family tree in 2010.

  • Meryl Zohrab provided some information about her grandchildren in 2010.

  • Margaret Orchard (previously Margaret Zohrab) provided some information about her grandchildren in 2010.

  • Diana Houtman sent the webmaster news of two new granddaughters in 2010.

  • Karl Stagno-Navarra, a journalist based in Malta, was emailed by the webmaster, who had heard his name on Al Jazeera TV.  Karl said he would "correspond shortly", but he has not done so.

  • Leo van der Plas sent information in 2012, which the webmaster used to amend family tree information about Johan Eliazar (Hans) Zorab and his descendants.

  • In May 2012, the webmaster altered the family tree, so as to make Paul, rather than Constantine, the apparent father of Constantine, Sophie and Peter Zohrab -- see ztbltre2.html line 146. The reason for this change was evidence to the effect that someone called Paul, rather than Constantine, was their father -- see zdetail2.html . However, it is not certain which "Paul" on the family tree was their father. In fact, Constantine might have had "Paul" as his middle name and might have preferred to be called Paul -- especially if his brother Paul had been killed by the Shah of Iran.

  • In June 2012, some descendants of Sophie Zohrab were added to the family tree, based on information in Donoghue (2008).

  • In 2012 Erica Beattie provided some information about her mother, Ruth McIlroy (nee Zohrab), and other relatives.

  • In 2012 and 2013 Diana Houtman sent the webmaster corrections and additions to family information.

  • In 2013 David Arathoon provided a photograph of the Calcutta gravestone of Oswald Zorab.

  • In 2013 The Reverend Mark Zorab provided some information about his part of the family.

  • In 2013, Sue Hiles provided some information about her part of the family.

  • In 2013, Lyn Scotland provided some information about her part of the family.

  • In 2013, Clive Zorab and Annabelle Stokes provided some photographs and information about their part of the family.

  • In 2013, Dudonne van Wyk provided some details about the family of Edward Vincent van Put.

  • In 2013, Stuart Zohrab supplied the results of his research at the Otago Settlers' Musum.

  • In 2014, Michael, Steven & Stuart Zohrab bought a 19th century photograph album which had originally probably belonged to James and Emily Zohrab.

  • In 2014, Hans Zorab provided details about his family, the only Zorabs in the Netherlands. He also stated that he had had his DNA tested, which proved that he and Peter Douglas Zohrab were cousins.

  • In 2014, Carol Brunello provided some information about Father Roger Zohrab.

  • In 2014, Tom King provided some more photographs.

  • In 2014, Hans Boers provided some information about his uncle, Armen Joseph

  • In 2014, Rowan Heath supplied some information about Dr. Paul Zohrab.

  • In 2014, Tom King provided information from the book by Nadia Wright.

  • In 2014, Carol Brunello provided some information about her daughter and about Edith Wills' ancestors.

  • In 2014, Clive Zorab provided some information about his family (which unfortunately was sent to a seldom-used email address).

  • In 2015, Tom King fowarded some information from his son, Edmund, in London, about Leslie John Travers Zohrab.

  • In 2015, Carey Zorab added some information about her family.

  • In 2015, Akira Hamada provided some information about his possible ancestor, Cecil Zohrab Ede.

  • In 2015, Professors Igor Lyman and Victoria Konstantinova provided some information about James Ernest Napoleon Zohrab.

  • In 2015, Craig Zorab agreed that he would take over running this website from Peter Zohrab.

  • In 2015, Akira Hamada provided some information about his part of the family tree.

  • In 2015, Annabelle Stokes provided some corrections to information about her part of the family.

  • In 2015, Carol Brunello provided some information about her granddaughter.

  • In 2015, Akira Hamada provided some information about Edward Zohrab Holme.

 

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