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Y-chromosome (Male Line) DNA-testing Results

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Here are:

  1. Peter Douglas Zohrab's 67-marker results obtained from Family Tree DNA in 2009,

  2. followed by his original 12-marker results obtained from the Genographic Project in 2005.

  3. Finally, the results of his Deep Clade test are at the bottom of the page.  These are the values for markers which help to refine exactly which sub-haplogroup (so to speak) we belong to, and are relevant to issues such as migration routes, etc.. These were initially obtained from ftdna.com, but later repeated and slightly added to by 23andme.com.

 

There appeared to be a couple of discrepancies between the results from the different companies, but different companies use slightly different values for certain markers.  This is set out on the page http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/marker_standards.jspx .

 

Locus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
DYS# 393 390 19 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389-1
Alleles 14 24 15 10 10 14 12 12 12 13
Locus 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
DYS# 392 389-2 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448
Alleles 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 19
Locus 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
DYS# 449 464a 464b 464c 464d 460 GATA H4 YCA II a YCA II b 456
Alleles 27 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15
Locus 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
DYS# 607 576 570 CDY a CDY b 442 438 531 578 395S1a
Alleles 15 16 17 36 39 12 12 11 9 15
Locus 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
DYS# 395S1b 590 537 641 472 406S1 511 425 413a 413b
Alleles 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23
Locus 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60
DYS# 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446
Alleles 17 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 13
Locus 61 62 63 64 65 66 67      
DYS# 617 568 487 572 640 492 565      
Alleles 12 11 13 11 11 12 12

 

 

Certificate of Y-chromosome DNA-testing

 

Here are the results of the Deep Clade test carried out in 2008 by Family Tree DNA:

 

L1- L11+ M18- M269+ M335- M73- P107- P25+ P297+ P310+ P311+ P312- U106- U198-

 

In 2011 there was an update to the general classification and naming of Y-DNA haplogroups. This particularly affects the R haplogroup because so many people of European and West Asian descent are in that haplogroup and they order many more tests than other groups do, which creates new data that has to be accommodated within the model.

It seems that the Zohrab subclade is now called R1b1a2a1a1.

 

It is recommended that people remember it by the last mutation, which is P311 in my case (if I understand it correctly). Then you will not be too confused if and when R1b1a2a1a1 gets changed to something else.

As stated above, his results were:

 

L1- L11+ M18- M269+ M335- M73- P107- P25+ P297+ P310+ P311+ L52+ P312- U106- U198-

 

It appears that you have to read this as a summary of a branching tree, from left to right, as a sequence. Every time there is a "+" sign, that signifies a mutation, and therefore a branching of the tree. So you have to follow all the plus signs until you get to the last one.

 

New tests are offered from time to time by the Family Tree DNA company, and at some stage (if not already available) there will probably be a test which he (or some other Zohrab family member) could get done which will relate to a branching of the tree below L52, apart from the three which have already been tested for and provided a negative result (P312, U106, and U198).

 

You can see the new version of the tree at:

http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html

 

See also the Y-DNA Haplogroup Confirmation.

 

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10 October 2015

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